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Rushin Roulette · Feb 26, 2008, 11:26 AM // 11:26

I play AB every now and then. Too often it does end up being a mobing noobfest whcih irritates me aswell.

However every now and then I will have a good game (dont actually mind if its a win or a loss as long as the whole round is balanced and close). In these cases Ill deffinitely say GG, well played or something similar.

Or if we are winning by far (something like 450:40) and I see someone on the other team playing well but getting more and more frustrated Ill PM him and we just mess about in the middle of the battlefield dancing or chatting waiting for the ineviteable win/loss respectively.

Dark Kal · Feb 26, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44

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Originally Posted by ReiNaruto

Sure, but there is always a but.

That's the reason I was talking in general it excludes exceptions.

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If you really play regularly HA you must know that most of the times you can reach the third room without taking a lot of effort.

A new player/team can't. You can join AB as a complete noobie or a pro, it doesn't matter, it doesn't affect if you win or lose most of the time.

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Of course, HA and GvG, mostly all that PvP crap, actually is garbage. No offense of course.

None taken, it's my opinion that AB is garbage, it's your full right to find the other PvP areas garbage as well although I don't share that opinion.

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hmm, anyone here remember IWAY? EoE Bomb? SF builds? HeroWay? I think that skill in HA is not always a requirement. In fact, in HA about half the time you found fighting pre-defined builds or/and not experienced players.

Even those cookie cutter builds require ten times the amount of skill and teamwork compared to AB. I wonder if teamwork even exists in AB other than mobbing?

ReiNaruto · Feb 26, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Even those cookie cutter builds require ten times the amount of skill and teamwork compared to AB. I wonder if teamwork even exists in AB other than mobbing?

That denotes that you haven't played AB with a real team.

EoE requires skills... Iway too... Rolfcopter!

And, if you don't care on my opinion, please stop posting.

Drackernout · Feb 26, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Even those cookie cutter builds require ten times the amount of skill and teamwork compared to AB. I wonder if teamwork even exists in AB other than mobbing?

Well, if you wnat to win in desfaborable maps, you need to do teamwork: keep groups together, move wisely, try to not to mob,....

If you always mob, it is clear that you are not trying to do things in the right way in AB. But the most important thing is that you are right: everybody can join a AB match, no need of ultra-top-builds or mega-pro-title-range. And that is very imporat because allows new players to enjoy it.

Dark Kal · Feb 26, 2008, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by ReiNaruto

That denotes that you haven't played AB with a real team.

I denotes I haven't played in AB with a good team, reality is most people don't play like a team in AB.

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EoE requires skills... Iway too... Rolfcopter!

It's not like you put down the Edge of Extinction spirit and you instantly win, you actually have to do stuff.

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And, if you don't care on my opinion, please stop posting.

I never said I don't care about your opinion I said I don't share it, there is a difference.

ReiNaruto · Feb 26, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Come on, you and me know that we both are right in its own way.

Drackernout · Feb 26, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

It's not like you put down the Edge of Extinction spirit and you instantly win, you actually have to do stuff.

If I'm not wrong, "stuff" consists in: SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, rez, SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, repeat until other team is dead. So I don't think that EoE requires a lot of skill. I only mean to point the fact that HA is no always about skill. In fact, heroway was everything except skill: 1 guy and 7 IAs.

Don't missunderstand me. You are free to think wathever you want, but don't generalize: not everybody mobs in AB. AB requires strategy if you want to win. HA requires strategy also, but sometimes, somebuilds does not require a lot of strategy/teamwork.

Wish Swiftdeath · Feb 26, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Omg HA requires skill?

more than AB yes but AB at least is fun relaxation

Dark Kal · Feb 26, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30

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Originally Posted by ReiNaruto

Come on, you and me know that we both are right in its own way.

Let's leave it at that, I meant no offense.

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Originally Posted by Drackernout

If I'm not wrong, "stuff" consists in: SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, rez, SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, repeat until other team is dead. So I don't think that EoE requires a lot of skill. I only mean to point the fact that HA is no always about skill. In fact, heroway was everything except skill: 1 guy and 7 IAs.

Fine, but my point was HA takes more skill than AB in general.

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Don't missunderstand me. You are free to think wathever you want, but don't generalize: not everybody mobs in AB. AB requires strategy if you want to win. HA requires strategy also, but sometimes, somebuilds does not require a lot of strategy/teamwork.

I generalized not to offend anyone. I don't think all people that play AB are morons but the majority sure are, and AB requires noticeably less skill than HA or GvG because of it. Teamwork is virtually non-existant in AB in most matches (other than mobbing together in one big group).

Kook~NBK~ · Feb 26, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Glad to hear the OP found one of the good ones in the game - there are more of them than these forums would lead one to believe.

I'm one of those "GGA" types. I post it after most matches. If it's a really close match, I'll be sure to thank everyone for the fun. If it's a match where the side I'm on gets our butts handed to us out of sheer stupidity, I'll keep my opinion (which isn't "GGA") to myself and promptly find another group.

Kawil · Feb 26, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

So, to sum up this post:

GG...Well played ReiNaruto and Dark Kal.

I'm not going into the nuances of AB, HA, GvG, RA, TA as everyone has a differing OP on each whether that be skill, talent or teamwork. All I know is that I enjoy AB as do many others and still many others enjoy HA, RA...etc.

My only hope is to kill as many Luxon as possible (NPCs mostly as that is what wins games...capping while not mobbing that is...sorry, I couldn't help myself) and have fun, lol.

Perkunas · Feb 26, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

I AB only occasionally, just to help keep our alliance factions up a little. Most times the battles are lopsided, but on one occasion, only 50 points separated the winners from the losers. After that battle, the leader of an opposing guild whispered me to join his guild, "I have never been owned by an Ele like you just did." Made me feel good, but I turned him down. I don't consider myself any good in any kind of PvP, but he told me I could make a good PvPer.

HMMM.

wanmoke · Feb 26, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

No, there is no way to find someone's name. I think it's a spam prevention measure. Imagine if all those gold selling bots could randomly choose names to whisper spam...

RiKio · Feb 26, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Ok, I don´t know what happened, but now the thread is for talking about the skill required for playing HA, GvG and AB.

IMO AB has the same coordination as HA and GvG. The problem are the PvE players, the pox of PvP. You know, that guys that Leeroy to inside of the enemy base, fight alone against mobs, use farming builds, etc...

I think AB would be a playable PvP Arena if people starts to play them a little more seriously. Only a little. Only for using decent builds. I wish so.